Give me questions for David Grover from PhaseONE for our OpenMic CrewCast on Oct 19th!
We'll be hosting David Grover from PhaseONE on Thursday Oct 19th during the open mic at 4pm Eastern. Bruno thought it would be great to have some questions for him to answer about CaptureONE. He's been featured on Creative LIVE and it's pretty cool for him to give us his time. Have to thank Bruno for setting this up for us as well.
Here's the crewcast link.
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What are some of the database features and editing features C1 can do on par or better than Lr (aside from tethering).
What are the differences between using sessions and catalogs for headshot clients?
Pratik Naik has a pretty good tutorial on C1, really gets into the nuts and bolts of it. Really helped me a lot when figuring my new workflow with C1.
1) Is there a potential for a "Lights Out" feature like LR has, this is where the app goes black except the image.
2) Smugmug Plugin to directly export up to that platform?
Thank you Bruno!
Does C1 have plug in features at all?
None that I know of, so that would be a great universal implementation overall in hindsight now. SM was the only I ever used on LR. Export directly to JPEG mini would be nice. That would save time there too.
Last time I talked to C1, I learned they offer development packages for developers which are kind of expensive, so no one ever goes for it. Hence the lack of plugins.
Thank you Maurice!
Hey Maurice - this actually isn't the case (that we have expensive development packages). We don't actually have the under pinnings for a plug in structure "yet". But Smug Mug is definitely on the radar!
Yes (lights out) - Fullscreen I would assume works pretty nice.
I'd love to know if David knows of a good way to remove lights out of frame in C1.. Especially when they make a large presence in the shot.
I really want to utilize the full power of editing in C1. Just not sure what or how things can be done.
EVERYTHING! :D
I will do my best to help
Only one thing what I need for never use PS anymore;) It is - Clone tool
Any insights into why the C1 profile for the Canon 5DsR always seems so red? I love how well C1 renders color otherwise, but getting the red out seems to be an endless battle. Can we get a Visine switch like this Ben Stein commercial? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phraojzAcv8 :)
PhaseOne IQ250 Portrait profile in C1 works very nice for me.
Great to know...just seems like the Canon 5DsR profile ought to work better on images created by a Canon 5DsR...
Lol, wow. I used that on my MIV as well, magical how the red goes away. I agree with Pete, come on Phase one, haha
I don't know how to set up default values for things like "next capture naming" and "next capture adjustments." Also, I always have to change the output selection to the Selects folder. It would be nice to make that default.
Also, color management. My skin tones suck.
Thank you both.
That I will certainly show, Chris!
Does he envision a time when C1 will allow one to save images to both whatever drive you designate as well as the camera's memory card _ without, of course, sacrificing C1's speed of operation?
With Sony a9, transferring 10 rapid fire image into C1 takes about 17 seconds for last one to display. Saving to both cards, takes about 20 seconds. Just for fun I shot ten images into LR using Sony Remote Camera and LR Auto import, 39 and 32 seconds to render last one saving to cards and not saving to cards. C1 is twice as fast to render. Theses are very rough timings, not scientific.
For modest speed headshot shooting with 25 MP cameras, I'm not convinced the delay will be too long, almost unnoticeable.
With large Megapixel capture and backs, I can see why you'd want to transfer the file as fast as possible.
Is it urban myth or confirmed from Phase One that the reason for not saving to cards is to minimize transfer delay or is it because they started that way with large backs and slow transfer protocols. In other words, the practical way to do it in the beginning, thus designed that way.
Remember when Phase One got going in the early 90's, USB did not exist and USB 2.0 introduced in 2000 was maybe the same speed as FireWire 800. CF cards were slow, expensive, and of modest capacity to say the least. Remember Hitachi MicrosDrives?
With USB 2 and USB 3 in cameras, it seems like saving to cards and transferring is a good idea and doen't cause excessive delay.
You've actually pretty much explained why Capture One works as it does.
"C1 is twice as fast to Render"
"Shot to Screen" time is vitally important in a lot of disciplines.
Lightroom essentially uses your camera as a glorified card reader. Shot goes to card, image gets transferred to computer. Hence the unacceptable delay from shot to screen for many.
Capture One interfaces to the guts of the camera, hence the dramatic increase in speed.
I assume you want to shoot to card as a backup? If so then an application like Chronosync will do that for you, AND have the benefit of keep your Session or Catalog structure AND adjustments at the same time. For a professional solution, I would much prefer that compared to halving the capture speed.
I'd like to know if there's any plans to improve the tools like crop tool or spot healing etc. Essential stuff.
I stillbhvent mastered the angle tool. The crop and angle should be one in the same.
Detail about the "Skin Tone" options.
When to use it, best practice when using it etc
Am I missing a way to do these operations?
Option to auto advance during rating.
Ability to see all images in subfolders. I tried to find a way to do this in the Library / Folder view and have not found a solution. I thought maybe I could Ctrl click to highlight multiple folders at once.
Open folder after processing done
Synchronizing sub-folders does not work until you Add Folder. Extra steps that seems unnecessary, is there another way?
Hey Mike - maybe when you see a suggestion for a Session workflow later, I can convince you that a Catalog, is great for archival, but maybe not the best for working on a headshot shoot.
David has done a bunch of webinars on C1, available here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgJWICGMzzvXk2w…
A few highlights:
Optimising Tethered Capture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUJgHBhD8cU&t=2s
Portrait Workflow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCzTc3pyDTw
Sessions vs Catalogs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6sm9bQQXf0
My mystery with C1P is the image capture and color displayed. Moving from Canon Red to Hurley Inspired Skin Tone. I will be doing some test with dye sublimation so this q/a is a little early for where I am at. There was a lot of C1P knowledge at the Chicago Intensive Master Class and that has reset my new base point.
Getting the color right, getting it assigned to my Cam profile, getting all images captured with settings applied. Fast. Those are the statements from which I would base questions on at this point.
Thanks for the opportunity to ask questions and get answers directly from C1P staff!
Chris
We can look at the skin tone editor later too :)
already know the answer, but sure would be nice if C1 played nice with Fuji / Lecia, etc...
How do you mean? We just added a bunch of Leica support. If you mean GFX or Leica S2, thats a different (political) story.
Specifically the Lecia SL - when I looked over the weekend, C1 did not support tethering on the Leica SL (The SL is full frame, not medium format, so the political stuff might not be an obstacle)
Hi Tim - For us to enable tethering it takes a fair bit of R&D work and also co-operation and documentation from the Manufacturer. It took about 6 months to get Sony working so we also have to balance that with market demand.
Anything is possible though, so keep pushing us.
and would be nice to have native tethering support for Olympus E-M1 Mk2
I'm finding v10.2 crashes often when editing. At least twice a week.
Shouldn't be the case at all - please make a support case with Crash logs. I can show you how in the session.
Interesting that you got the same 'spinning colour wheel of no response' during the crewcast. At least it's not just me!
Thinking of more:
1. Copy images between two open sessions (C1 only permits move).
2. Being able to select which open session receives the tethered images. Useful when shooting a small group with an individual session per person (shoot one while another changes, then switch back to the first).
3. Offer clone/heal off a fixed (static) reference point (C1 currently uses relative referencing). Would greatly simplify light removal on constant background.
Ugh, Reading this made me break into a cold sweat! :)
Its far easier to work in ONE session with nominated Capture Folders which automatically update the Capture naming. I will show this later!
As for 3 - I agree that would be an improvement.
Thanks David! Just watched the crewcast and agree nominated select folders within a single session works great for related subjects (such as a corporate shoot). The context for my question was slightly different, in that I sometimes overlap two subjects that have lengthy wardrobe/makeup changes and use dual sessions so I can keep shooting. I suppose I could shoot in one session, then merely import the desired selects folder into a new session (or move with EIP).
In terms of my first question (of copying images between sessions, as opposed to move), the context here is building a portfolio of images from prior shoots while retaining the original image in the original session. Catalog could do this, but my preference is to work in sessions as I want to alter the colour in the new portfolio different from the original colour corrections used in the earlier session (while still retaining the original corrections). My current process is to copy/paste the RAW file from the original session to a new folder and create a new session. The issue is this does not bring forward the original edits. EIP could do this, but I would really like a drag/copy in addition to the drag/move C1 already provides. One thing I have not yet tried is to clone the variant and move the variant - would this work?
Thanks again for the great crewcast. Would love to have you back!
This is a timely discussion given the new LR CC release that takes away the ability to tether. LR Classic still allows tethering but not being able to use the latest LR release with my workflow is enough to make me consider CaptureONE.
Would welcome you with open arms Karen!
Keep em coming guys and we'll get to as many as we can. If you can't be on live definitely check out the recording.
Hi. Does it have a library module like Lightroom for organizing and rating images? Furthermore, I would like to know if you can have can have it networked or have multi user access to the catalogs (Lightroom term) so that two users can have the library/collection open at the same time (so they can rate, cull or export images) - albeit not editing or working on the same image at the same time?
Yes - but we have an additional file management system - Sessions - which is way more suitable for Headshots.
Thanks David. Sounds interesting. We currently run lightroom but the catalogue files have to be stored on the local machine(digital negs on a NAS) and if someone is using that machine to work on one Lightroom catalogue no one else can do anything with Lightroom or the other catalogues. It is a real bottleneck!
Hi Dermot - We made changes in 10.2 to better support networked systems. You can put a Catalog on a Network but only ONE person at a time can edit, but multiple people can view in a locked catalog.
I don't know if you were present yesterday, and saw the Session workflow? But you could easily store xxxx number of Sessions on your NAS and open them from any connected workstation.
Why can't I import psd files? That would be really useful to me. Thanks.
You can Kathyn! What version are you on? You may also have disable PSD support in the preferences
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